Overcrowded jail system reaching a crisis point

All one has to do is look at states run by liberals and see they have the MOST crime. They ahve the most strict gun laws; they have the most taxes and even when we have a radical liberal socialist democrat like Obama............they whole COUNTRY goes to pieces. It ALWAYS takes a conservative INDEPENDENT and INDIVIDUAL THINKER to get back in office to get the morality, the laws, and order back. It takes a conservative to lower the taxes and allow folks to LIVE with prosperity again. It can't come soon enough after the WORST president EVER--Obama!

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Build the new prison, we're going to need it.

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When people confuse ignorance with morality the idiots will feel superior.

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The left just always side with the degenerates, the politically correct which is really morally corrupt. They prefer feeling sympathy for criminals than the victims and that is the sad truth as you watch every execution bringing in these lefties with their lit candles begging for pardons for murderers and rapists. It's sickening.

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i think u have picked up a book by karl marx.

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Pure, you would have to cherrypick the bible to agree with it's laws. The fact of it is the Bible is full of flat out nonsense and plenty of things that are thought of as horrendous today. A 4000 year old book might have some useful information in it but is hardly the best book to run a modern society on, any more than the Koran is.

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Apparently you must have because you aren't reading what I read else you would know what it says about murderers. Maybe you have the NIV version, which has been changed and does not accurately translated. Get you a copy of the manuscripts and an old version of the Strong's Concordance. You will soon discover that "Thou Shalt Not Kill" reads as :Thou Shalt Not Murder." There is a huge differece. Then things will begin to clear up for you when dealing with murderers.

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ok, not even wasting my time. i must have picked up and read another book.

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Fed, if you actually knew what the Bible says, you'd know what I comment on is exactly what the Bible says to do. It tells us to execute murderers, rapist and people who harm children. What you won't find in it are your touchy-feely views on how criminals are victims. Something else you will find in it has to do with not agreeing with left thinking people with your kind of warped ideas.

Maybe you should actually lick up a Bible and read it. You'd be amazed at what's in it.

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very sorry to hear about your goddaughter what, im sure thats hard.

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if pure is such a believer in god, i think he needs to reread the bible because his views and comments about certain things dont make him sound very god fearing. they make him sound like hitler, and we all know where he ended up.

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Simmer down, that statement wasn't aimed at you and I never said you were against it. It was generalization, not a pointed statement.

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What is wrong with you? Why twist the meaning of my statements? How many times do I have to tell you that I'm not against capitol punishment?

By not torturing our prisoners I mean that they should not be subjected to preventable violence, their food should be edible and sufficient, there should be a reasonable amount of space and they should get adequate medical attention for conditions other than stab wounds.

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There is a difference between executing someone and torture. As for being better than the ones we judge, it's not a question of superiority, it's higher than that. Justice is far more important than being superior. It's a matter of doing what's right. If you aren't willing to do that, then we are no better than the people who harm others without justification. Murderers, rapist and child molesters are the lowest form of life on the planet and deserve no more than a fair trial. We must stop thinking about the pain they feel while dying, if there is any, and focus on the reason they are being executed. Focusing on the wrong individual is what's wrong with the system now.

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Sometimes revenge and justice are the same thing.

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Granted, I would have prefered taking the murderer of my God-Daughter to the woods and letting the critters eat him slowly. That wouldn't have been justice, it would have been revenge. It would also have been a crime that I wouldn't have complained about serving the time for if I were caught.

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It is important because we should be better people than they are if we are going to judge them. Don't forget that most people that serve time aren't murderers and that doing the time is the punishment. We don't have a right to add torture to the sentence.

It is extremely rare that an insanity defense works and the capacity to premeditate a crime excludes an insanity defense. So does the capacity to realize that what is being done is wrong or illegal. Medical insanity is far different than legal insanity for the purposes of a defense.

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The methods aren't important What. What is important is that they pay for their crime. I'm sure the murderers on your god daughter or my son didn't worry about about being humane, or how much grief they would cast on the people who loved them. So explain to me why treating murderers with one bit of humanity is so important to some people? I don't get it. Why should they get considerations their victims did get? Personally, I think people who murder should be made to suffer, just like the agony they put their victims through. I am a very compassionate person, but my compassion is limited to those who do right, not someone who kills for the sake of killing or sexual gratification. These people worse than animals. Animals don't know better, people do. Personally, I don't buy this crap of insanity either. If they had enough mental capacity to plan out murders, then they are mentally stable enough to stand trial and pay for their crimes.

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Fortunately Humanity has come a long way since the Bible was written. Prison didn't exist to punish crimes and choices were limited. Do you really think that adultery should be punished by stoning? Should I really be able to beat my wife with a stick as thick as my thumb or kill my son if he were disrespectful? Should eating oysters be illegal? American Law really isn't based on the Bible and Biblical Law is completely out of date. Truth be told I've never met anyone that truly takes the Bible literally and our legal system surely does not. The Bible just doesn't cover enough of what is entailed in policing modern society. Not that there isn't some wisdom to be gleaned from it's pages.

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Personally I would have been disappointed if the murderer of my God-Daughter had been executed (although I'm not against the death penalty). It would have been far too easy.

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Thank you.

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I am sorry for your loss, I lost a son and I know how it feels, and that's why I have such a hatred for murderers, rapist and other criminals. If we are ever to bring sanity back to this country, we must make the punishment proportionate to the crime. If you kill someone, you die if it was not in self-defense. If you rape a woman, then that person should die. The same goes for people who harm innocent children.

I'm not advocating a political view, it's Biblical. I know you don't believe in God, but that's your choice, but I do and I take the Bible literally and it is very explicit about punishments for crimes. Both of us have reason to be upset at the judicial system. At lease you had one concession I didn't have. The person who murdered my son is still running lose on the streets, you at least had the pleasure of seeing justice done. Again, I am sorry for your loss.

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Don't ever again tell me that I care nothing for the victims of crime or their families. My God-Daughter, a wonderful young woman that I helped raise, was murdered two years ago. I made sure that I was looking her killer in the eyes when he was sentence to life in prison while I held her sobbing mother. The rest of his life will be a living*****even if he is treated humanely. Unlike you I know what I talk about.

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Quit putting words in my mouth. I'm as law and order as you are. I just don't fantasize about prison rape or putting bullets in the heads of shoplifters. Treating convicts humanely is civilized not coddling.

What they may do in some other backward country doesn't have any bearing on what we do.

Yeah, the Bible is all about justice. I especially like the way your God sent everyone that came after Adam to*****until he had his Son nailed to a cross. Even then He didn't let most of the people on the planet know that there was a way to be forgiven for something that they didn't do. Believing that fairytale doesn't make you morally superior. If it did you would at least quit bearing false witness.

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Oh, by the way, yes, there are some who may be innocent, but if the police and the courts were working as they should, that wouldn't happen either. The Bible gives a clear outline of how to handle these situations. If they were followed, there wouldn't innocent people behind bars. So, should we scrap the entire system over a few mistakes? Hardly. If you had your way, every criminal in America would be roaming the streets. Maybe you should visit some Middle Eastern countries and see how they handle it. You steal, they cut your hand off. You rape or murder, you are stoned to death or beheaded. They don't fool around. Their punishment fits the crime. Not a slap on the wrist and you're back on the streets like in this country. Even dope dealers are put to death.

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