President Barack Obama is oftentimes a national embarrassment, and last Wednesday was one of those times....
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Obama is a classic example of why "on the job training" for an important office is not a good idea.
The people who elected him voted for his words, not his philosphies or deeds.
Obama is going to go down in history as the worst president we've ever had, much to Jimmy Carter's relief.
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The IRS employee union has come out against Obamacare. They want no part of it for themsevles. And they would enforce it! Obamacare must really stink.
Obama and the Democrats are masters at pitting one class of people against the other. They did it with the blacks and now they're doing it with the Hispanics. They can't get votes any other way other than dangling welfare checks, entitlements and rebate checks in front of their face. Merit doesn't work because they have none.
Obama is so stupid he thinks he needs to keep campaigning. He doesn't realize it's illegal for him to run again, unless his master plan is to invoke martial law or find some other underhanded way to stay in office.
Obamacare is a bloated piece of garbage designed steal money from both the middle class and low income people. Once fully implemented, the unemployment line will swell to epic proportions. It's already started. Even Wal-Mart has cut employees, and put most of its employees on part time. Even Mon Power is getting ready to cut another 260 jobs from their workforce. Yeah, Obama loves the unemployed, he must, he created so many of them.
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The IRS employees were asked to oppose an amendment by...a republican congressman. The propaganda you respond to is, as always, just that...propaganda and lies.
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Puremagix, you are accurately describing the classic republican Southern Strategy. You and all right wing extremists have perfected the art of projection. quote: "Obama and the Democrats are masters at pitting one class of people against the other."
nellie, you're not being responsive. The IRS employee union doen't want any part of ObamaCare. Same with members of Congress and their staffs. What part of that do you not understand. Other unions, including the Teamsters, also want to bail.
I'm curious. What part of ObamaCare do you like?
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solutions, this is an excerpt from fact check dot org (no links permitted): House and Senate members are allowed to purchase private health insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which covers more than 8 million other federal employees, retirees and their families.
It’s not a “single-payer” system where the government acts as the one and only health insurance company. As President Bush’s chief of personnel Kay Coles James said in 2003, while lecturing at the conservative Heritage Foundation, “the FEHB program is not centralized, government-run health care.” It has drawn praise both from conservatives and liberals, including President Obama, who held it up as a model for his own health care proposals.
According to the Congressional Research Service, the FEHBP offers about 300 different private health care plans, including five government-wide, fee-for-service plans and many regional health maintenance organization (HMO) plans, continued...
You are not reading beyond the headlines nor are you hearing beyond FoxNoise. Rep. Camp is a republican who is grandstanding.
excerpt/link not permitted: However, a bill (HR 1780) introduced in April by Rep. David Camp (R–Mich.) would extend that requirement to all federal employees, an idea that does not sit well with the union.
nellie, here's part of the letter the union wants members to send:
"I am very concerned about legislation that has been introduced by Congressman Dave Camp to push federal employees out of the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP) and into the insurance exchanges established under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). . . .
"The primary purpose of the Affordable Care Act was to provide a marketplace for the sale and purchase of health insurance for those who do not have such coverage — not to take coverage away from employees who already receive it through their employers."
What part of that do you not understand? Why shouldn't IRS employees play by the same rules as everybody else? Same goes for members of Congress, their staffs and even the president.
Again, solutions, this is about an amendment proposed by a REPUBLICAN congressman meant to distort and confuse. Government employees have health care insurance. ACA is for those who do not.
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FYI...there are 535 members of Congress. In addition to their salaries and many benefits, the American taxpayers are subsidizing their health care insurance coverage by an average of $700/person/month. This includes coverage of their dependents and staff.
nellie, your point is irrelevant. The fact is that the IRS employees don't want to join the rest of us covered under Obamacare.
My point is relevant, solutions. IRS employees have government sponsored health care insurance. There is no reason for them to be covered by ACA. That is the point their union was attempting to make to the congressman who was wasting more time in trying to distort and confuse the issue. The House has voted to repeal ACA over thirty times...this was just more nonsense. You people are so easily fooled.
No one has to buy healthcare from the exchange. Most people won't have to do anything different. The ACA is not the government takeover of healthcare.
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nellie, your point is not relevant. The IRS employees want nothing to do with ObamaCare. They recognize that it's a disaster.
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what, if only it were so. ObamaCare will force people to pay more for more comprehensive plans, and that will push people out of the private market and into the exchanges. We're eventually going to wind up with only the exchanges. And while we're talking about the exchanges, the estimated total cost of the subsidies has risen by $125 billion. And guess who gets to pay that. Taxpayers. And even then, according to the IRS, a family of five will have to pay $20,000 a year in the exchange. Kaiser Family Foundation says 3.9 million family dependents may not be able to afford employer family coverage or exchange coverage. Thank you, Mr. Obama and Democrats.
They can't afford it now.
HuffPo excerpt - 7/26: Health coverage sold on Obamacare's health insurance exchange in Maryland will be among the cheapest in the country, state officials said Friday.
A 21-year-old nonsmoker will be able to buy health insurance that costs as little as $93 a month on the Maryland Health Connection, the state's health insurance exchange, starting Oct. 1 for coverage that takes effect Jan 1, the Maryland Insurance Division revealed in a press release.
nellie, don't get too excited. This from the Baltimore Sun:
"As tempting as it is to look for a single, bottom-line number to say whether health insurance will be more or less expensive under Obamacare, the truth is that such a comparison is ultimately imperfect, if not meaningless, because of the changes in the way the health insurance marketplace will be structured."
If you believe you can get something for nothing, so be it. But extending coverage to 30 million more people is going to cost dearly. There are no free lunches, unless, of course, you're a liberal on the dole.
Read for comprehension, solutions...from the same Baltimore Sun article 7/29/13: In fact, the amount you pay out of pocket for your health care costs may well be lower under Obamacare, even if your premiums go up. That's because the insurance policies allowed in the health care exchange all must meet certain minimum qualifications in terms of their benefits and covered services. Most preventive care under the Affordable Care Act will be included in the price of insurance premiums, without deductibles or co-pays. People who previously bought low-rate, high deductible, low-benefit plans may find that they will now not only get a more comprehensive set of services but also pay less in the end, even if their premiums go up.
And that's not counting the fact that most — state officials estimate three-fourths — of the people buying coverage on the exchange will be eligible for federal subsidies.
This "something for nothing Liberal on the dole"nonsense is getting old and tired. It certainly isn't much of an argument unless you can show that Republican voters don't accept help if they need it. You can't. It is a nonsense argument that detracts from any valid point you might make.
If you wonder, I have never taken a dime from the government even though I've been eligible for SSI since my 18th birthday (33 years). I didn't even cash my Bush Stimulus check (seemed like bribery). I will be glad to finally be able to buy health insurance though.
Right you are WMW. There are no unemployed republicans or republicans who need government assistance...there are no republican farmers who demand farm subsidies or republican businesses which use every tax loop hole invented. The problem with republican voters is that their "news" and "information" comes to them through the RW Media Machine which filters everything and produces lies and misinformation. Republican politicians lie and distort and cannot even create legislation which isn't cleared through lobbyists and ALEC.
Solutions.....Nelliebly is typical leftie. Only believes what he wants to believe; the heck with facts! They get in their way. Let him stay ignorant. His real lesson will be when he gets FINED for not purchasing health insurance. WHich most WV folks won't be able to afford. Most WV drivers are driving without insurance because they cannot keep payments up on it. Now health insurance??? Yeah right. They think in WV they'll get it FREE? WV is a POOR state. POOR folks can't afford to pay for this. Taxes won't get paid if you don't have the money to pay it. Idiots in this state....democrats think they can just keep taxing the poor? At what point do they think the PEOPLE will revolt? Next upcoming election and they KNOW IT> They dems are in damage control now....one democrat from Cabell county, Mr. Kelly I believe is already leaving democrat party and PRETENDING to be a Republican because he KNOWS we are booting this IGNORANT party of tax raisers OUT!
First, TruthSeeker, I am not a guy. Perhaps you need to develop better reading comprehension skills?
Starting in 2014, the penalty for not purchasing health care insurance is $95.00/year.
The mandate is a republican principle developed by the Heritage Foundation in response to the health care reforms presented during the Clinton presidency. The mandate is the cornerstone of the state-wide Massachusetts health care insurance law which was signed by republican governor, Mitt Romney.
Reading comprehension will never be in her skill set. She is too dense to even realize that the Inter-Mountain is a Right leaning publication. On the up side she probably has a hard time finding her polling place so she is likely to be pretty harmless all in all.
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