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Sad and shameful statistics

January 29, 2014

For sports fans, statistics can be a source of fun and happiness. The following statistics are unlikely to make anyone happy, however, and they certainly aren’t fun....

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TruthSeeker

Jan-30-14 12:01 PM

When WV flips over to conservative leadership, we WILL once again have capital punishment for violent murderous crimes in WV.

Liberals are so weak and cowardly, that they have no problems killing innocent vulnerable helpless babies in the womb.....but light candles and beg for mercy the adult violent rapists, pedophiles and murderers on death row.

Tell me Nellie, What, Jane, Walker, OldBlue.....this makes you feel good about yourselves??? Really??? Pathetic!

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TruthSeeker

Jan-30-14 12:04 PM

I also find it sad and shameful that liberals demand jail time if a parent paddles their child. At same time...same liberals unashamedly and animalistically and vengefully shove instruments into innocent and vulnerable, helpless babies to kill them so they "aren't bogged down in life caring for another human being." Yeah, it's all about THEM! Talk about greedy and selfish and UNcharitable? That explains the liberal mentality.

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nelliebly

Jan-31-14 11:09 AM

So, Maj, do you want EVERYONE to procreate?

Maj: "...they wanna lecture us who actually procreate..."

Or, do you just want Special People to have children...

And if that's the case, how do you propose to prevent Not-So-Special people from procreating?

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nelliebly

Jan-31-14 2:56 PM

Maj, you do have a habit of avoiding discussions about the points you raise.

Let's stick to issue you brought to this thread and that's "procreation". I'll just re-post my comment ...

nb: So, Maj, do you want EVERYONE to procreate?

Maj: "...they wanna lecture us who actually procreate..."

Or, do you just want Special People to have children...

And if that's the case, how do you propose to prevent Not-So-Special people from procreating? (end re-post)

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nelliebly

Jan-31-14 3:56 PM

No, Maj, you are definitely NOT answering directly.

Maj: "...Oh yeh, How to prevent people from procreating. Hmmm, I dont care."

I will rephrase the question basing it on your previous comments about procreation and marriage.

Since you believe that procreation is the only valid reason for two people to be married, it would stand to reason that you believe that procreation outside marriage should be prevented.

How would you prevent procreation outside marriage?

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 2:05 PM

You don't need a massive drug task team to address these problems. What you need is jobs. People are trying to escape the reality of living in west virginia using drugs. The the more enterprising are selling them,because there is nothing else to do. So instead of wasting more money creating more government jobs to grab headlines treat the real cause. The first great step is making the mountaineer state a right to work state. It's worked extremely well for Virginia. Every year its between Virginia and Texas for the top business state. While pro union West Virginia continues to bring up the rear.

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 2:50 PM

Right to Work in Virginia creates jobs? Are you kidding?

Virginia Society of CPA's - By Tom Marcinko and Bill Foote, CPA

excerpt: Government contracting is big business in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Many of the world’s largest government contractors are headquartered in our state (see Table 1).

According to a report published by George Mason University, the Department of Defense (DoD) alone spent $54.5 billion in Virginia during 2008, including $15 billion in payroll for the state’s 31 military installations and $39.4 billion in contracting for the procurement of goods and services. It is estimated that these contracts supported approximately 270,000 jobs within the state. Federal procurement spending in Virginia across all agencies totaled $53.9 billion in 2008.

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 3:49 PM

Neillie that surely doesn't hurt. Although go google" virginia number one in business." Then read the cnbc article about all the factors that go into that ranking. Alot more goes into it than the government spending in northern va. One main reason is the right to work law. Can you in "your own words" describe why west virginia outside the eastern panhandle is a wasteland for businesses?

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 4:03 PM

funnyfarm, I took your suggestion to Google and this is the article I found which appears to be your source:

Virginia is Victorious — Again — In CNBC's Top States For Business Published: Tuesday, 28 Jun 2011

The basis of Virginia's economy and growth has been the success of government contractors. All other factors depend on that.

I think any analysis of WV economy would require a thorough study of how the coal industry has held this state captive. Would you agree with that as a starting place?

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 4:55 PM

FYI, funnyfarm re Right To Work as a factor in job creation.

ehow dot com : excerpt

Since the Taft-Hartley Act was signed in 1947, 22 states have established Right to Work laws for residents and employees. Right to Work states are: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Wyoming.

You can draw your own conclusions.

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 5:01 PM

You must have read a different article or you want to believe what you want to believe. Why so many "private" businesses locate in va is. 1)cost of doing business 2)avaliable workforce3)cost of living4)infrastructure and transportation 5)quality of life for employees6)low taxes7)right to work. Im not saying the northern va government machine doesnt have a major influence,but to say it all depends on government contracts is ridiculous. If you want a list of corporations who are headquartered in va you will see how many corporations call va home. Why is west va is a wasteland needs no study. Pro union,no infrastructure,not enough trained workforce and for decades not a business friendly elected officials. Although that is changing.

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 5:03 PM

Pro union states are not losing wealth,people and quality of life? Come on man.

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 5:05 PM

Draw conclusions from that list all you want,but alot of those states are growing some faster that others in business power and progress.

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 5:17 PM

funnyfarm, without a link which isn't possible on IM, I could only Google and give you the name/date of the article which sounded the most like the one you referred to and which I did read:

nb: funnyfarm, I took your suggestion to Google and this is the article I found which appears to be your source:

Virginia is Victorious — Again — In CNBC's Top States For Business Published: Tuesday, 28 Jun 2011 (end excerpt)

You state what you believe to be the problems with WV economy and job creation. I agree with some of them and offer two solutions. WV needs progressive leaders who are not connected to Big Coal and residents of WV are going to have to be willing to foot the bills if the state is going to offer tax incentives to corporations.

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sme1funnyfarm

Feb-02-14 5:22 PM

Nellie west va is getting better at attracting business. They also have to invest more in education.

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nelliebly

Feb-02-14 5:36 PM

funnyfarm, nothing would make me happier than to see WV become a haven for business, small and large.

The most aggressive state leaders, i.e., Gov. Perry-Texas, actively recruit out of the state and are able to offer many incentives. Tax breaks are just one of those incentives.

You might find this site interesting: low property tax dot net. It is a listing/ranking of all the states' property taxes. Texas is #13 w/average of $1320; VA is #20 w/average of $1109; and, WV is #44 w/average of $556.

There is no easy answer and many factors to be considered.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-03-14 9:41 AM

Send all the lawbreakers AKA Illegal Aliens back to their own countries and we won't be so much in debt any longer. Problem SOLVED. Well, almost...gotta get rid of all the Socialist/commies in the DNC!!!

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nelliebly

Feb-03-14 1:50 PM

corridor 2020 dot com: excerpt: In West Virginia, every Corridor but one is completed - Corridor H. Stretching 130 miles from I-79 at Weston, West Virginia it runs to the Virginia border where it is designed to travel an additional 13 miles to the I-66/I-81 junction near Front Royal, Virginia.

The highway in West Virginia 75% complete or under construction currently and will increase to 87% by 2018. Our vision is to see the road in the Mountain State complete by 2020.

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nelliebly

Feb-03-14 1:53 PM

corridor 2020 dot com (continued)

Billions of dollars of exported goods from West Virginia will have direct access to the large inland port at Front Royal, Virginia - where double-stacked container rail can then take the goods to the deepest port on the Eastern Seaboard at Norfolk. Because of this, it is estimated that 80,000 jobs will be created throughout the Corridor System with the completion of Corridor H.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-07-14 7:41 AM

You're forgetting something about such voters Maj.

They don't want to work.

Obama WH spokesman Jay Carney said it best this week when he stated: Obamacare's destroying more jobs around 2.5 million MORE; is a good thing. It allows people to "decide" whether they want to work or stay home and collect subsidies off the backs of those who do work.

THAT comment will be on the tombstone of the Democrat Party! They're finished. Workers are not going to support lazy useless leeches.

And what happens when they stop working? No workers; no taxes; no subsidies!! Of course liberals can't understand that. They think they can just keep printing money. Yeah, right.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-10-14 10:40 AM

Nellie says: Because of this, it is estimated that 80,000 jobs will be created throughout the Corridor System with the completion of Corridor H.

WOW; after all the false 'predictions' of the numbers game in JOBS over past 5 years, predictions over Obamacare, economy, etc.....dismal failures and absolute wrong predictions....Nellie still believes politicians "predictions."

Another gigantic waste of taxpayer money. ONLY ones wanting this are the politicians so they can have a QUICK exit of DC to WV should a NATIONAL ATTACK hit that area!!!!!!

Makes you wonder what they AREN'T telling us!

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Heresmy2cents

Feb-12-14 3:18 AM

In case you missed it, the article was about prescription drug overdose stats in West Virginia. What anyone failed to mention is the pushers ( pharmaceutical company's) that are selling these pills to pharmacies around the world. They're making billions of dollars. Legally I might add. But that's our problem now, right? You see what's bad for one could be profitable for another. This isn't about race how many foreigners do you see in West Virginia? Not as many as you see in Northern Virginia . And most of those that you see around here are middle easterners going to college in morgantown studying to be doctors and things. Not many Black people around here either ( compared to other places) so whats that tell you? It's not the ethnics or the minorities doing the drugs, and stealing your stuff, its your neighbors. White people, You know who they are. I never heard of anyone dying of a marajuana overdose.

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TopGun

Feb-12-14 8:29 PM

2cents, the biggest problem is not the drug companies, or the doctors who give drugs too readily. It's the courts. If they were doing their job, a lot of these dope pushers would be behind bars. Screw the overcrowding. If need be, build more prisons, or better yet, convert some of the empty factories we have in the state into correctional facilities. They're sitting empty anyway, may as well use them for something rather watching them fall to pieces.

It does no good to keep arresting someone a dozen times and then letting them go with a slap on the wrist. Stick their butt in prison and let them come down from their high locked up where they don't have access to drugs. If they find imates with drugs, then lock them in solitary and forget about them. It's time to get tough on dopeheads.

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Heresmy2cents

Feb-12-14 11:34 PM

@topgun I respectfully disagree with you. I think that a person should only be locked up if they have done a crime against another. While sadly hard drugs affect family and friends as well, the main impact is on the user themselves. We need to get to the bottom of the problem why do people start taking these drugs. The problem starts when people are young. Family and friends (peer pressure) have a major influence on a young person. Look at the stats West Virginia has the highest fatality rate for prescription drug abuse. We also have one of the highest poverty rates in the country. There is nothing around here for these kids, or adults for that matter to do around here but hang out with the wrong crowd, and get hooked on drugs. We need more things to do around here. like put-put golf or go carts or more movie theaters. i know it sounds stupid but seriously We can't just keep locking people up for " getting high" we need to show people that we can have fun without drugs or al

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Heresmy2cents

Feb-12-14 11:47 PM

Plus just take a look around, this place can be depressing. I've been to the "projects" in southeast DC nicer than some of the slums around here. Not only do people not have money around here but many of them don't. I mean come on people lets clean this state up a little maybe get rid of some of the old washing machines. Instead of throwing your trash over the hill take it to the dump. Or fix those broken windows. Anyway you get the point. I know some people are not able to do the work or not able to afford materials to repair their houses but at least try to make a difference young people see this place and think they have nothing to look forward to, but a minimum wage job and living in a trailer on the side of a hill somewhere piled with junk. so why shouldn't they do drugs.

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