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Reader ‘ridiculed’ by local politicians?

February 8, 2014

I believe a correlation exists between large-scale failures causing the water crises in the Charleston area harming more than 300,000 people and the small-scale failures of Philippi officials who......

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TopGun

Feb-08-14 11:07 AM

One thing you're forgetting is this. You are complaining about this man using "Public Land" to work on his truck. Well, that man just happens to be part of the "Public" you speak of. So that being said, he is entitled to use this land as long as he isn't violating any laws. Another thing you forget, is that this man is obviously working, or he wouldn't have a tractor-trailer, and that makes him a taxpayer.

I'm sorry for the loss of your loved ones, but if you would take the time to study what you're eating and drinking, you would find that this man's truck running is the least of your worries. The Fluoride in your water, and the preservatives, who knows what else is in you food is likely the reason there are so many cases of cancer. Think about it. Get informed, then complain about the real culprits.

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Mansfieldmama57

Feb-08-14 4:40 PM

TopGun, are you loaded and I don't mean with bullets. Get lost!

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Mansfieldmama57

Feb-08-14 4:42 PM

what the heck is an eco people? is that anything like a purple people eater? good lord.

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Mansfieldmama57

Feb-08-14 4:43 PM

what the heck is an eco people? is that anything like a purple people eater? good lord.

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TopGun

Feb-08-14 5:13 PM

Mansfield, like it or not, the man has a right to work on his truck, and if the city doesn't have a problem with him using what I understood to be public property, why should anyone else? You just don't shut someone down because of something you don't agree with. As I said, there are much worse things to be concerned with other than a little diesel smoke. Maybe you should spend a little time researching genetically modified foods, or the chemicals like sodium nitrite they use for preservatives in our food, or the fact that the government is allowing chemicals known to be toxic to humans, like Methylene Glycol used in hair products, or Formaldehyde usedto repel water and stains in our carpet.

Maybe you'd like to give us your take on why so many people these days has cancer, especially here in West Virginia? You do realize this state has the highest cancer rate in the nation. Food and water are the only common denominator.

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mooses

Feb-08-14 6:38 PM

TO Top Gun, Read the first line again, Top Gun. Officials refusing to enforce codes that are being violated is the point. The man is breaking codes and depriving his neighbors (who are also citizens, taxpayers, and property owners) of their rights to enjoy and easily access their own land. The man’s permanent structures on taxpayers’ land crowded up against them, repairing a truck in the street unless it is an emergency, operating a business in a residential zone, making awful noises at all hours (you try working deprived of sleep), and much more are all in violation of codes. The two neighbors dared to complain, and you seem to want to deprive them of even that right. Unless you are inviting him to move his operations right in front of your home, you don’t deserve an opinion.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-08-14 7:32 PM

mansfieldmama....do you OWN this newspaper??? YOU get lost!

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TruthSeeker

Feb-08-14 7:34 PM

Well TopGun; you're comments made complete "SENSE" which obviously the left cannot 'comprehend!'

Compare logic from TopGun's comments and then read the left's comments.

The left 'attack, bully, intimidate' the 'commenter' because they have no thoughts to respond with. Lack of knowledge causes one to post silly little irrelevant things. Touche....

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mooses

Feb-08-14 9:01 PM

Laws exist to protect city rights-of-way. How many people do you know who have porches built on public land? If Philippi is giving away land, I’d like to get in line. The truck owner should be required to pay for and submit an official land survey, which would show his wrongdoing. The complaining neighbors were required by the city to have their land surveyed and obtain permits when placing their mobile homes. No such survey was required of the truck owner; and, as reported in this newspaper, no permits for his mobile home or porch are on file with the city. Do you believe the complaining neighbors should have equal privileges to misuse public land and perhaps build a dog kennel business irresponsibly crowded right up to where the huge truck is parked. Then the truck owner could enjoy barking dogs and smells on par with his diesel fumes and truck noises. That would be fair, right? Far-right fanatics’ rants are exceedingly boring.

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mooses

Feb-09-14 3:22 AM

INDEED PEOPLE ARE BEING HARMED. Many with red skin blotches and burning eyes went to hospitals Though the water was deemed safe at 1 ppm contamination, the CDC deemed it should be .04 ppm. A second chemical was hidden by the polluter.. Pregnant women are being advised not to drink the water . Add chlorine to the mix and you end up with a cocktail the effects of which will not be known for years. We won't know the effects to unborn children for many months or even years Follow the money to corrupt corporations/politicians. West Virginians are tough but not stupid, When you pull your head out of the sand, you will hear people saying, “If you go to WV don't drink the water .”

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TopGun

Feb-09-14 9:54 AM

I do believe Joe sees a fascist behind every tree. I detect a splash of paranoia in his post. He's a bit predictable though, throwing the word around like a child who just learned his first dirty word. I am beginning to wonder if he even knows what a fascist is.

I have noticed one thing though. He must never check out what anyone says because most of his answers are straight from the left's playbook. If you can't debate them, start labeling them, even though you don't have a clue what they're talking about.

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TopGun

Feb-09-14 10:06 AM

Moses, how do you know any codes are being violated? City codes are not always uniform all over the city. Many often apply to certain parts of the city due to the circumstances surrounding that particular area of the city. There are instances where it is illegal to make left turns on certain streets between specific hours due to school trafic.

In other areas, it may be illegal to park on one both sides of the street, and others where it is only allowed on one side of the street. Since when do a person have the right to hinder a person's ability to make a living simply because they don't agree with something they're doing? Apparently this person hasn't broken any laws, else the law would have put an end to it. We don't even know if the person who wrote this letter went to city hall and found out if the code applies in this case. I wouldn't be too hasty in making any determinations before all the facts are known.

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mooses

Feb-09-14 4:46 PM

Stop driving down streets & stay focused, Top Gun. In a 2-year struggle for justice, the letter writer of course researched & presented to the Mayor & Council copies of applicable codes & detailed, with pictures, how each is being violated. Rather than enforce codes as specified by their job descriptions, they suggested the victims sue the neighbor. Puzzling is what power the truck owner holds over city hall.

Why does the trucker’s making a living prevail over the victims’ right to make a living? In a residential zone, the victims, in order to work each day, have a right to expect decent nights’ sleep uninterrupted by loud truck noises & fumes. He can park his commercial truck elsewhere & commute as other truckers do.

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mooses

Feb-09-14 5:03 PM

have 2 engineering degrees & years of career experience--bring on a science debate. We could never triumph over hormones, antibiotics, and other substances in food and water; but I say, “No thank you,” to politicians/corporations for even more chemicals in brown, licorice-smelling, skin-burning water. You’re welcome to drink it up, since you defend it. You research, learn that prevalence of cigarette smoking in WV is the major reason for the high cancer rate.

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mooses

Feb-09-14 9:34 PM

To Majoritarian: Oh hum. Exceedingly boring tirade.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-10-14 6:33 AM

You research, learn that prevalence of cigarette smoking in WV is the major reason for the high cancer rate.

Really Moose????? And you can PROVE this beyond a shadow of a doubt? Because NO scientist or doctor yet can prove this.

We have LOTS of cancer-causing carcinogens around us daily. Gasoline vehicles; formaldehyde in your carpeting; on your scotch-garded furniture; flame-retardant pajamas; wood-burning stoves; plants, factories...pesticides; genetically-modified FOODS; fluoride in your water; chlorine in swimming pools, drinking water.....housecleaning products; detergents; scented candles; lead candle wicks you burn in your homes, etc, etc, etc. I could go on and on and on...yet you ignorant liberals pick just ONE carcinogen and claim THAT is what caused someone's cancer.

Oh brilliant one....you're not so brilliant.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-10-14 6:37 AM

When liberals can't find a REAL problem; they 'create' one. Then run with it, hoping they can convince others there's a 'real' problem.

Appears they can't succeed on this one; thus the whining and "sky is falling" scenario we'll be hearing for some time. So what's new in the liberal's world? Nothing, same 'ol frightened by their own shadows liberal insanity.

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TopGun

Feb-10-14 9:14 AM

Moses, like it or not, this person's fears are based on "May Contain", there is no physical evidence proving that this man has diesel fuel, tires or anything else hazardous in his outbuilding. Ready the letter. May have big truck tires, may have diesel fuel, may contain water with mosquitos in it. May, May, May. Everything in this letter is pure speculation on this person's part. Apparently the water debacle in Charleston has this fearful of something that took place a hundred miles away.

No one wants their water contaminated, but the proof that the man with the truck doing anything illegal or harmful to the environment just isn't there. How does this person know the man's truck and porch is on city property? Have they had it surveyed, or at least measured off? Where's the evidence? You just don't go after someone assuming that person had done something wrong. Until this person gets the proof, they better back off or risk being sued by this person. At this point, it's all

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TopGun

Feb-10-14 9:17 AM

Major, you're correct, Joe only sees conservative fascist, there are no liberal fascist. (wink wink)

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mooses

Feb-10-14 11:41 AM

Knew I was pushing your buttons. Free speech is wonderful. Lets end with treat your neighbor the way you want them to treat you.

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mooses

Feb-10-14 8:28 PM

Whoa, everyone, please be civil. Read comments completely & think before replying, especially when your point has already been answered if you’d read more carefully (e.g., codes were researched and land measured ). We all consider our view’s important, but outright meanness is not a virtue. Speaking out against injustice as the letter writer did, though I agree and you disagree, is our right, but your disagreeing with name-calling and advocating general hatred is downright unkind and unpatriotic. As Joe mentioned, you hurt your cause when you do that.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-11-14 2:25 AM

Oh right Mooses....like JOE doesn't rant and name call. Give me a break along with your liberal "Double-standards!"

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TruthSeeker

Feb-11-14 2:30 AM

Mooses....meditate on this. Double standards liberals use are getting tiresome.

If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 50 years ago, a liberal 25 years ago, and a racist today. ------- Thomas Sowell

Liberalism; setting double-standards on who can show tolerance, who must obey laws and who gets a free pass to bully, intimidate and attack.

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TopGun

Feb-11-14 8:32 AM

Moses, apparently the use of this land is of no concern to the city, so what's the problem? As I said, what's in the building is pure speculation on the part of the person complaining. Even if there is diesel fuel in the building, and it's kept in approved containers, there still isn't a problem. As for the tires, there are no regulatons on storing them as long as they aren't stored in a manner that could cause children to be injured. As for the water that MAY contain mosquitos, well, there are hundreds of places they can breed, including old pop cups thrown out of cars, buckets sitting outside and a thousand other places. Personally, I think the whole matter has been blown out of proportion.

We can sit around all day thinking of hundreds of things that MAY be hazardous, including walking to the kitchen with a knife in your hand and falling on it. You just don't shut down someone who is trying to make a living because of your fears.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-11-14 11:32 AM

Obviously there's no problem with this 'complaint' for the city or they'd be doing something.

And before others start 'choosing' a side....there is ALWAYS a SECOND side to every story. I don't know the circumstances and I sure don't know the facts and apparently neither does the Intermountain. THIS is just THIS PERSONS 'opinion' about what she feels is a problem for her.

WHY but why do neighbors not try 'communicating' and I mean 'respectfully' and 'nicely' to the neighbor and work out a 'solution' both can live with instead of going off all berserk and full of hostility and attempt to seek officials on that neighbor? Not a good FIRST choice! Only 'aggravates' the situation.

I perceive this as not a thing city can do as evidently there's no laws/ordinances or such being broken. The city officials would surely be doing something if it was.

And screaming that 'all' city officials are corrupt does nothing to 'prove' anything. ALL just opinions and views at this point.

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