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Partisan politics still rule in Charleston

February 27, 2014

Suddenly, Democrats in the West Virginia Legislature seem eager to enforce an ethics code on the state attorney general....

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:40 AM

Yeah democrats were NOT interested in morals and what's right when Darrel McGraw was in office all those destructive years.

Pure partisan politics. Dems only care when it's the other party in office.

Every veil secretly desires to be lifted, except the veil of Hypocrisy.

RICHARD GARNETT, De Flagello Myrtes From source: notable quotes online.

Read more at ***********notable-quotes****/h/hypocrisy_quotes.html#62idQAlLCc6mA2W0.99

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:44 AM

Even before our current Republican state attorney general has done anything wrong; democrats hypocritcally pass a law that would "prevent" him from doing the things the previous democrat Darrell McGraw did and got away with from same democrats who pass this bill.

SHame on these democrats for 'ignoring' the wrongdoings of their own previous Attorney General and 'pretending' our new one will do the same.

HYPOCRITES that won't be getting votes next election. Voters fed up with the hypocrisy of democrats.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:51 AM

Wrong is wrong no matter who does it.

Apparently democrat leaders in WV do not think so.

The hypocrisy of the left becomes more and more apparent on a daily basis.

WV voters are fed up with the partisan politics our dem leaders continue to play. They act like doing wrong is okay when their party is doing it. When is the last time or the FIRST time you ever saw dems call out one of their own for wrong doing and then proceed to punish them for their wrongs? Name one. I dare you.

At least the right do not defend one of their own who strays from doing what's right. You never hear of the left doing same for their own.

Sick of the intolerance of the left; the bullying of the left; the transparent hypocrisy of the dems.

You dems will never get another vote from me. You've had plenty of opportunities to wise up; shape up and do what's right; you utterly failed once again.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:54 AM

This is interesting!!! Perhaps this bill is just another left tactic to 'assume' this attorney general is guilty of something...(he isn't, except he's of the other party & dems are angry).

A new report by Glenn Greenwald, who has been working with NBC News to cover the continuing revelations by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, that claims to have information indicating the British government is actively “attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction.” Greenwald embedded a purported document from the British Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group titled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:54 AM

Continued:

“Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets,” Greenwald writes, “and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.” Some of the tactics described in the document include “[writing] a blog purporting to be one of their victims,” and “email/text their colleagues, neighbors, friends.” Others suggest “[posting] negative information on appropriate forums” and “[stopping] deals/ruin business relationships.”

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:55 AM

Continued:

He has long warned Americans that Cass Sunstein, an Obama adviser and the former head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, advocated similar techniques in a "purely academic" paper in 2008. The multimedia personality read from Greenwald’s article, driving home the point: “These surveillance agencies have vested themselves with the power to deliberately ruin people’s reputations and disrupt their online political activity even though they’ve been charged with no crimes, and even though their actions have no conceivable connection to terrorism or even national security threats.”

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TruthSeeker

Feb-27-14 7:56 AM

Continued:

Now...after seeing Obama administration continue to deny the truth that IRS is only targeting conservative/tea party applicants for nonprofit status for their organizations, would anyone really be surprised to find out that perhaps even this administration is using same tactics? They say they would never do such a thing, but look at all the other ways they've been intimidating others and using bullying tactics, while claiming to hate bullying! Oh the trolls are out there alright. Just go to any blog and they're easy to spot. Don't engage in anyone who changes the topic and spreads 'lies' about someone or something without providing any 'source' or facts to back it up. They get paid for your engagement and they get paid when they succeed in getting you thrown off the blog site because you got angry and abusive. Ignore these types and they'll NOT get paid and NOT succeed. That irks them more than anything. Source: the blaze and other online 'transparent' outlets.

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elkins26241

Feb-27-14 11:20 AM

Blah Blah Blah Republicans are the biggest joke in this counrty right now! I'm sure somehow this will be Obama's fault too. That the only thing they have because they have nothing else that why they'll never win the White House again.

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TopGun

Feb-27-14 3:57 PM

Yet another case of thieves protecting thieves. Of course the Democrats want to change things now that one of their own isn't holding McGraw's former office. It's nothing new. Give your man all the latitude he wants to rob, steal and extort, and then change the game plan when someone outside the party wants to clean up the corruption. Frankly, the ethics committee needs to remember who it is complaining, and investigate them to see if their pockets were lined by McGraw.

McGraw was as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks, and I'd be willing to bet there is more than one Democrat in Charleston hanging on the other end of McGraw's line. Just one more reason to impose term limits on all political offices.

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TopGun

Feb-27-14 4:05 PM

Elkins, we will see who has the White House next time. Your man in Washington has created an environment handing the White House to a Republican next term. Be patient, you will soon feel the sting of your president's destructive tactics. Unemployment is still climbing, the debt is still rising, and the dollar keeps dropping in value. When Obama's useless idiots, namingly people like you, will be the first ones to revolt when your entitlements, handouts and welfare stops coming, and it will. Three programs, welfare, the EIC payments and the unemployment extensions cost us $970 billion dollars. Nearly a trillion dollars in handouts. At the rate of unemployment, there will soon be less taxes paid in than the outlay of free money, and the whole system will collapse. Just a matter of time.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-28-14 7:45 AM

Dems always 'prevent' cleaning up corruption.

No one is surprised by WV democrats' refusual to help our new Attorney General clean up the previous democrat AG's corruption and thievery.

Dems know they cannot win any election if Voter ID is passed either. That's their number 1 priority now before elections & is why Obama is fighting it in courts every week. Too bad, but several states already passed Voter ID for voting.

The ONLY reason anyone would be against it is due to fact it PREVENTS and STOPS completely, voter fraud. And we know that's how dems won last presidential election, right Obama? Soros owned company 'counts' the ballots in USA and that company is a 'foreign' country?? Yeah sure we believe they were counted accurately---NOT.

Then democrats keep slowing down and preventing military votes every election. Even Al Gore & DNC didn't want them counted in Florida in 2000.

Dems disenfrachise voters all the time.

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TruthSeeker

Feb-28-14 8:14 AM

Clearly, the bill in question is political in nature - an attempt to hobble Morrisey because he is the Republican who defeated McGraw and because he dared to recommend audits of state agencies and the Legislature. McGraw may be gone, but his style of ultra-partisan politics still reigns supreme in Charleston.

Democrats ANGRY about Morrisey doing 'audits' and finding out about FOUR MILLION DOLLARS unaccounted for in just ONE agency.

Yeah, democrats....I can see why you'd be so upset with our 'current' AG! VOTE DEMS OUT!

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TopGun

Mar-01-14 7:11 AM

Dave: May I introduce you the real meaning of Fascism? " a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government." You seem proud be included such a brutal form of government. Hitler often showed his appreciation to his top commanders by executing them.

We also saw how well Hitler's fascist government faired when he tried to spread his dictatorship worldwide. It's heartwarming to see a true fascist like you so willing to lay down your life for your own personal dictator, "Barack Obama." He'll appreciate everything you did, all the way to the firing squad he'll honor you with.

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TopGun

Mar-01-14 8:10 AM

By the way Davey: The GOP's support of women's rights goes back to its founding in 1854. I would remind female voters that their very ability to cast a ballot was won for them by the Republicans over the vehement objections of the Democrats.

It's always been the same, Republicans fight for women's rights, and the Democrats against them, but the truth is rarely heard because as soon as the Republicans win the battles for women, the Democrats start their smear campaign, spreading the lie that it was the Republicans who fought against them. Democrats have always been masterful liars, and you demonstrate that by parroting the lies used by Democrats for decades to hide their disdain for women. May I point you to Bill Clinton, a man who claims he fought for women, when in reality, he only looked at them as a sex object, and he proved it with his constant affairs when he was governor and president. I suggest you stop peddling Obama's lies and own up to your party's sleazy history.

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TopGun

Mar-01-14 8:19 AM

Whether you like it or not Davey, the United States Constitution overrules all gun control measures. I know, being a fascist and all, that rubs you the wrong way, but face it, there are more than 100 million people in this country that own guns. We have had a massive jump in gun ownership since YOUR president took office. I will thank him for one thing. He's been the most affective gun salesman we've ever had. Gun sales skyrocketed after he took office, and it showing no signs of slowing down. America is waking up Davey. They're beginning to show their true American spirit. They will not allow a tin hat dictator like Obama to steal their freedoms. Get used to it.

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TopGun

Mar-01-14 8:30 AM

Davey: OK...OK..I'll admit the Democrats will someday come for your guns, just like in England.

Let them come. I hope they have plenty of ammunition because they won't get my guns without a fight. I have lots of people all around me that feels the same way. One of the most scary realities or war is getting caught in a crossfire. It rarely plays well for the aggressor. Remember that when you follow your minions on their mission to disarm law abiding Americans.

I hate to be the one leading the pack into the hollers and back country of this state looking to collect everyone's guns. That will not play well for anyone trying such an asinine move. You just never know what you'll find in some hillbilly's house. May I remind you that this is NOT England, and we're not the wimpy girly-boys England seems to be so proud of.

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TruthSeeker

Mar-01-14 10:38 AM

Some GOOD news!

Today's headlines? .The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out a fundraising email on Friday telling supporters that six Democrats are now trailing in the polls for the upcoming midterm elections. If Republicans win all six races, “the Senate is theirs,” the email states.

ALL dems right now are LOSING votes in ALL polling against the republican contenders. VERY good news....for America!!!

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TruthSeeker

Mar-01-14 10:43 AM

@DaveRao...ROFL...LOLOLOLOL. Just more liberal spin and lies. Funny though.

Read MY post for today. DEMS LOSING midterm election 2014 votes AND support.

How do I know? EMAILS being sent out in thousands telling everyone that all 6 contenders against dems are WINNING in all the polling in every state. DEMS are FINISHED and they did it to themselves without any help from the opposition.

Yeah, You can keep your insurance. LOLOL You can keep your doctors....LOLOLOL

Maybe if Obama can find those other "7" states he claimed he visited in 2008...they MAY have a chance. LOLOL. Obama claims he visited "57" states....I guess YOU believe that too? Dems can't count!

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TruthSeeker

Mar-01-14 10:45 AM

DEMS see the future....the 2014 upcoming midterm election that is. And it ain't pretty...(for them!)

ROFL. They did it all by themselves. Thanks Dems for your arrogance, FORCED twisted power hungry laws/regulations and your constant childish whining. It helped destroy you.

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TopGun

Mar-02-14 7:44 AM

We have to be extremely careful when taking over a Democrat's office that we don't get hooked in the dirty little traps they leave behind. You can bet they will spend the rest of their term hiding what they've been up to, and figuring out how to redirect blame to the incoming representative. A smart person would order a complete audit of everything that went on in that office, and I'd request a new computer for that office, and a forensic analysis of the old computer. Who knows how many boobytraps the Democrat leaving office would leave behind.

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TruthSeeker

Mar-03-14 9:45 AM

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye." -- Matthew 7:3-5

Some question constitutional standing of AG ethics act; This bill goes much further than just restricting funds," said Delegate John Shott, R-Mercer. "In fact, it oversteps our constitutional boundaries as to what we can do with respect to the operation of our court system." The statement Shott gave on the House floor Feb. 24 was against the West Virginia Attorney General Ethics Act, which later passed the House by a narrow party-line vote. During the floor session, the two main arguments about the legislation were the proposals for enhanced and tightened ethical requirements in regard to court appearances and a provision that money received from cases be would be funneled back to the Legislature to allocate as it sees fit.

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TruthSeeker

Mar-03-14 9:52 AM

Who will 'regulate' court proceedings under this unconstitutional rule now?

According to Shott, the authority to set rules regarding West Virginia's court systems is reserved exclusively for the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals.How would the proposed legislation infringe on those powers reserved for the Supreme Court? "This bill is a series of disqualifications," Shott said. "In other words, an attorney cannot represent a client in a court system under certain circumstances. That's not our prerogative. We have no authority to do that." Who does have the right to determine if ethical conflicts exist? The Supreme Court!usurping power from the Supreme Court would create a constitutional crisis, he said. "We cannot, absolutely cannot, usurp the prerogative of the Supreme Court of Appeals," Shott said. Not only does the power to determine court proceedings lie with the Supreme Court, but because the office of the Attorney General is a hybrid of sorts, t

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TruthSeeker

Mar-03-14 9:54 AM

, two different oaths are required, adding an extra blanket of protection.

Minority Leader Delegate Tim Armstead, R-Kanawha, said the attorney general is required to take both the governmental ethics oath and, as an attorney, is bound to the rules of professional conduct. "(The attorney general) has two layers of protection against ethical violations," he said. "He's required to adhere to governmental ethics, where there are already protections in place regarding conflicts of interest," Armstead said. "In addition to that, he took an oath as an attorney. As an attorney, he is also subjected to rules of professional conduct."

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TruthSeeker

Mar-03-14 9:55 AM

Under the proposed bill, the assistant attorney general, acting in lieu of the attorney general if there were to be a conflict of interest, would be supervised by the governor. Armstead pointed out some potential issues with that particular designation. "Is there any constitutional right for the governor to supervise the assistant attorney general?" he asked. "I'm not sure to request him to do that would not be out of compliance with law." If the governor were to supervise, legal decisions and decisions about legal requirements would have to be made. Armstead asked if the governor would be out of compliance with the law if he's not an attorney.

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TruthSeeker

Mar-03-14 9:56 AM

Many opponents of the proposed bill wondered how someone could legally make legal decisions or offer legal guidance without the possession of a law license. Delegate Patrick Lane, R-Kanawha, who is an attorney, asserted that the legislation goes "far beyond what the court thinks is right and proper for the practice of law in West Virginia." "How can we, as a constitutional body, say to another constitutional officer, the attorney general, you have no power and we are going to subject you to the will and the oversight of the executive, the governor, a third constitutional officer?" Lane asked. "The duly elected constitutional officer, the attorney general, has his or her power stripped and given to the governor of the state of West Virginia.

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